Mast Length

 

I just measured my mast on Saturday.  It's 42' 1".

 

Gary Luisi

One Shot...  #0978

 

 

Mast Gate Replacement Part

 

One of the little knurled knobs that hold my mast track gate in place has come apart.  I intend to replace it with a suitable screw, but the threads don't match anything at West Marine.  Does anyone know the specs?

 

I had the same problem a few years ago.  I ordered a set from McMaster-Carr.  Here's the part number and description from their web page:http://www.mcmaster.com/  92558A120 Metric 18-8 SS Knurled Head Shldr Thumb Screw M4 Size, 12mm Length, 16mm Head Dia, 3.5mm Head H $ 5.50 Each

 

Ray Durand

C320 #822

Marina del Rey, CA

 

 

Mast Base Blocks

 

The 320 mast base blocks aren't listed in Garhauer's catalog, but they have them. Give the a phone call and tell them what you need. The whole block, mast stud and nut is about $23 including shipping. Installation is simple: slide the nut into a slot on the side of the mast step, center it under the hole with a small screwdriver and screw in the stud.

Walter

 

 

Here are a few general tips these mast step blocks.

 

* The block studs are Stainless, and the mast step is Aluminum.

    When you install them, you'd be wise to grease them with a

    corrosion prevention goo of some kind.

 

     A friend with a C380 didn't do this, and several of them are effectively welded in place, and since they aren't lined up fair, the blocks and studs are stressed and bent now...  I suspect it'll be quite a job to get the studs out now, and the boat is only 3 years old.

 

* When you're screwing in the studs, don't tighten them down all the way.  Back them off 1/4 or 1/2 turn.  They need to swivel a little so that they can provide a fair lead without stressing the block sideways.

 

*  Those in the sun belt who don't haul their boats might want to pull them once or twice a year to ensure that they aren't corroding in place.   I pull mine off each winter (just to clean and lube the blocks, studs and nuts.)

 

I'll post a few pics on the website if anyone's interested, showing the results of not doing these things when I get my Digi-Cam back...

 

-Jeff

 

 

Mast Tuning

 

This was in an article submitted by Mark Yeager, which is still posted on the C320 association page.  This link should get you directly there. (It's in the technical articles list).  He insists on using both PT-2 & PT-3 Loos gauges, which will set you back between $200 & $300, depending on the vendor.  I used Online Marine (onlinemarine.com) and paid <$200 for both.

I have dialed in his numbers this spring but haven't launched and tried them out.  I'd appreciate feedback from anybody who has.

http://www.catalina320.org/article.php?story=20040828173431380

 

Art Spector

Aurora #519

Salem, MA

 

 

Tim Campbell <tim@isylum.org> wrote:

i think I recall a thread about needing two gauges to cross-check.  I only have a single Loos gauge (PT-3).  They roughly run about $150.

The PT-3 is will accommodate all sizes of cable on the 320.  Other models won’t accommodate the larger gauge cables such as the lower

shrouds.

 

 

True.

 

Mark Yeager mentioned that the PT-3 gauge would fit the all of the shrouds on the C-320.  The problem is that the tension on the smaller shrouds is below the limit of detection of the PT-3 gauge.  That is where he specifies both the PT-2 and the PT-3 gauge.

 

As for the "Professional" gauge, historically, there has been little or no agreement between the measurements obtained between the PT-2 and PT-3 gauges and the "Professional" gauge.  Since Mark determined his tensions using the PT series of gauges, you would need that type of gauge to reproduce his set-up.

 

Although the sun has been shining recently, and the snow is all gone, I haven't been able to attack the Alchemist and modify my set-up to match Mark's recommendations.  After a two day seminar / class on Judging this weekend, (and after rendering unto Caeser), I should be able to attack the Alchemist next week and make the recommended changes.

 

Steve

Alchemist #909

 

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Don't forget that the reason for the gauges is to get the rigging tensioned to roughly 10% of it's breaking strength.

 

Brion Toss explains in detail why this is important, but essentially, nothing damages/weakens rigging faster than shock loading the wire.   When the rigging is too loose, the following happens:

 

You tack, wind fills the sail, mast moves to leeward and the windward shrouds get taught, and the leeward shrouds can go slack.  When the wind reverses, the slack shrouds get pulled from slack to tight.

This kills the wire.   You want to try to avoid that stress on them, and by keeping them fairly tight, there's much less shock loading happening.

 

For those using a backstay adjuster, the lower forwards might have to be left a little looser to accommodate the increased rake added by the adjuster.

 

That's basically how I understand it.  I'm not saying I'm right or have factored in everything.  Perhaps there's more to the equation for us cruisers.

-Jeff

 

 

Robert E. Sloat <resloat@comcast.net> wrote:

At a Strictly Sail show here in Chicago a few years ago, the folks from Selden Mast put on a great seminar on mast tuning and passed out a very informative booklet on the same.  According to Selden, at 5% of breaking strength, all 1X19 stainless wire stretches about 1mm over 2 meters of wire length.  Using this parameter you can crank up whatever % of breaking strength you want on the various shrouds by simply tensioning and measuring wire stretch.  Selden says 15-20% of breaking strength on the cap shrouds is the general rule.  So if you want 15% of breaking strength, you stretch the wire 3mm over a 2 meter measured length.

 

Their technique only requires a 2 meter long stick and a measuring tool with precision around1/32 inch.  I use a low end Craftsman vernier caliper. You also have to deal with conversion of metrics to inches (25.4 mm/inch and 1000mm/meter). I am a tool freak, but decided to use their method instead of buying the gauges.

 

It is all explained in the above booklet Selden passed out.  It is on line at: http://www.seldenmast.com/.  When you get there select the Manuals tab and then select General Information from the scroll down window.  Then choose the Hints and Advice manual which deals with mast tuning.  It is in pdf format so you can download it fairly quickly on broadband.  Page 28 of the manual has the information on the technique used for measuring the stretch.

 

This method of loading the cap stays coupled with Yeager's tuning article from Mainsheet on the other shrouds are what I use on Hull 894.

 

 

I was at the same Selden seminar in Chicago last year and still have the Selden handout booklet.  I am going to try to tune my mast using their system in a few weeks.  (Lots of work to do to it before restepping.) It makes perfect sense.  The only requirement is to have accurate measuring devices.

 

Stan

"Our Little Amusement" #744

 

 

Standing Rigging

 

Cap stays (uppers) (D3)             5/16”

Forward and aft lower stays (D1’s)  ¼”

Intermediate stays (D2)             ¼”

Backstay                            ¼”

Forestay                            5/16”      All are 1x19 SS wire