Shaft Removal

 

Tim et al,

What was your experience of pressing the half coupling back onto the shaft like? I found it quite disconcerting to have to pound hard with a hammer and a block of wood on the end of the shaft while my buddy checked progress inside. I put a block of wood between the two half couplings to try to reduce the impact on the transmission. Didn't cause any damage (this was 6 years ago) but I was hoping there was a better way to do it next time. Did you use soap as a coupling/shaft lubricant or find something more effective?

 

Cheers,

JohnL

"Sabbatical2"

 

 

Todd Rodzen wrote:

ok guys, I have read on here a couple times that the 320 doesn't require the rudder to be dropped to pull the shaft. We'll mine hull # 820 does! I saw it with my own eyes today. There is no way to get it out without moving something out of the way (rudder, strut, or engine.) I'm assuming rudder is going to be easiest.

 

Anybody willing to disagree?

 

Anybody change a cutless bearing on a c320? what method did you use to Pull it?

 

I Know the PSS (dripless seal) should be 1" shaft / 1 1/2" log, has Everyone used the Standard version? The west marine catalog says the high speed version is required for over 12mph, my repair guy had told me he would use the one with a water intake (the high speed version). But then again I'm realizing not much that he has told me has been accurate.

 

Todd

 

I guess it all depends on what you want to do.  You do NOT have to pull the rudder to install the dripless shaft seal. The shaft only needs to slide back maybe 6-8"... and there's plenty of room for that.

 

If you had to take the shaft clean off, then I suppose you would need to drop the rudder.

 

The PSS Dripless Shaft Seal for the 320 requires a 1" shaft diameter, 1-1/2" log size (the real log size is 1-5/8" but PYI doesn't make a seal in 1/8" inch sizes -- only 1/4" sizes.  But it stretches quite easily and is no problem.  Use the low-speed version, it's also no problem.

 

I just installed my dripless shaft seal (a buddy and I did it ourselves... it's really not very difficult) two weeks ago, and the boat went into the water last week.  Once I burped the seal (lots of spray will come in when you do this), I got narry a drop.  I took her for a 10 minute spin just to help break in the seal and re-inspected it several times.

 

Odd things you'll need, but might not think to bring:

 

400-600 grit sandpaper (you need to polish the shaft before sliding the stainless collar down to the shaft seal - IMPORTANT:  After polishing the shaft, you need to intentionally "dull" the keyway.  After polishing mine it was razor shart and would have slices the o-rings on the inside of the stainless collar -- that would be bad.)

 

Ordinary dish-soap - This is to lubricate the o-rings so they'll slide easily down the shaft.  DO NOT USE A PETROLIUM-BASED LUBE.  This will deteriorate your o-rings (not immediately, but eventually they will), and that would be very bad.  Sort of defeats the whole point of a "dripless system".

 

A torque wrench.  PYI wants you to tighten the set screws on the stainless collar to 6 ft/lbs of torque.  I didn't have a torque wrench. I have no idea how I would have done this even with a torque wrench. They give you a small allen wrench - all the torque wrenches I've ever seen have a socket adaptor - and are not adapted for allen wrenches.

 

Longer shaft-coupling bolts.  Remove one bolt from the shaft coupling (the plate that bolts the shaft to the transmission), run to a hardware store, and pick up 4 of the same size - except at least double the length. You'll have to "press" the shaft out of the coupling plate but putting a space between the shaft & transmission and tightening the bolts.  The standard bolts (grade 8 if I remember) are too short for this.  The longer bolts are just temporary.

 

Regards

Tim

 

 

Shaft Repair

 

In my experience, you're really better off getting a new prop shaft. You really can't straighten a shaft once it's bent.

 

The problem is that once it has the slightest bend, you'll never be able to perfectly "unbend" it at the precise points.  As a result, the shaft will create a horrible vibration at high speed.

 

I bent a shaft on a previous boat (well, someone who borrowed the boat did it.).  It also bent the strut, tore one blade off the 3-blade prop, and damaged the remaing blades.

 

Amazingly, the dealer told me that they would repair the bronze strut and propeller (I couldn't *believe* they were gonna repair the propeller, but I must admit, it looked like new when they were done), but the stainless steel shaft had to be replaced.  Bronze is easily formed and bent (which is why it's preferred as prop material.  If a prop hits an object, *something* between the point of impact on the prop and the engine must give.  You really want that weak point to be the prop instead of the engine or transmission parts.  Thus bronze props will fold over easily, lose a blade, but protect the engine. And bronze is easily repaired.

 

UNLESS... it's a shaft.  At high speeds, the shaft really must be *perfectly* straight, or you'll get vibrations.  It'll be very annoying, and can cause premature failure of bearings, etc.   You really can't unbend it *perfectly* enough.

 

Regards

Tim

 

 

Paul, beware of machine shops. Most of them don't have the equipment to straighten shafts after they are machined.  This is were I had mine made, all they do is make prop shafts.

Marine Machining & Mfg

33475 Giftos dr

Clinton twp, Mi 48035

586-791-8800  Fax 586-791-8803

       

Ken Bousum

STINKIN GRINGO' #711