Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:06:51
From: Bruce in Cleveland <bmorison@apk.net>
>It was quite refreshing to finally watch a good Star Trek story! This
>episode had all of the classic elements of plain'ol good Star Trek
>story telling. I must a bit, that I was a bit skeptical of this one
>at first. After hearing about and seeing clips of Archer's trial and
>references to Rura Penthe, I naturally thought that this would be some
>cheap rehash of the Star Trek 6 movie. Although the settings may have
>been similar, the story was told in its own unique way that made it
>for an interesting and good episode to watch. Let me also give some
>high praise for some fine acting by Hertzler and Vickery. These
>veteran actors to Star Trek really know how to bring a character to
>life. At first, Kolos may have sounded like Martok, but once the
>scenes progressed, one could tell that Kolos was anything but Martok.
>You can thank Hertzler's acting for making Kolos seem like a unique
>character.
Hertzler does play a good Klingon doesn't he.
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:34:43
From: chuck michelle and the CAT" <woof359@e...>
I agree, yesterday show was better than normally for Enterprise,
always good to see the Klingons in any show. Duras??any relation? how
old do Klingons get to be???
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:41:34
From: rgorman@telusplanet.net (David Johnston)
>What it all means -
>
>Archer inspires Kolos to restore honor and faith to the Klingon
>society.
>
And then Kolos dies in jail.
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:36:29
From: "aure_enteluva" <martal810@h...>
[[ 1) Mayweather mans the helm as usual. ]]
What did you expect him to do, work a shift in sick bay? Wait,
that's been done...
[[ 2) I guess Universal Translators are not issued to prisoners on
trial during Enterprise's era. During Star Trek 6, Kirk and McCoy
can't get through the trial without it. ]]
There was that one episode where Archer studied up on the Klingon's
culture and it really paid off? Maybe he's studied up some more and
become semi-fluent in Klingon. Or possibly the Klingons have
mastered Terran?
[[ 3) How was Archer captured to begin with??? ]]
No clue.
[[ 4) So, who takes care of Porthos while Archer is in prison? ]]
My votes for T'pol... =:o
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:38:10
From: captjim <captjim@p...>
> [[ 1) Mayweather mans the helm as usual. ]]
>
It wouldn't be such a bad idea to find out that Mayweather had a
talent for something else besides the helm. Right now, they could
replace him with a potted plant and no one would even notice.
Like you say, sickbay has already been done with Tom Paris. He did
and does show some aptitude for weapons (like the torpedo firing
drills he got involved in with Reed early in the series), but that
really wouldn't give him much more screen time and I think would cut
into Reed's time. We don't want to do that. I really liked his
ambassadorial skills with the Kreetassans in the episode where they
make first contact with them. I think he could make an excellent
OPS officer like Harry Kim or Data was. But I don't believe that
post has even been invented yet. I think it would be cool if they
ran into a civilization that for some unknown reason would only talk
to Mayweather so that Archer would be forced to say something to him
and then he'd repeat it almost word for word to the aliens so that
they could respond. It might make for some funny moments.
>
> [[ 2) I guess Universal Translators are not issued to prisoners on
> trial during Enterprise's era. During Star Trek 6, Kirk and McCoy
> can't get through the trial without it. ]]
Maybe the judge and attorneys had them here. Archer certainly didn't
seem to know what the crowd was shouting so they didn't have them and
he probably didn't either. Maybe UT's are only for the REALLY big
trials like Kirk being accused of killing the chancellor.
>
> [[ 3) How was Archer captured to begin with??? ]]
>
I thought he was supposed to have been captured by a Tellarite in the
episode Bounty. Maybe they are showing the episodes out of order?
>
> [[ 4) So, who takes care of Porthos while Archer is in prison? ]]
>
I believe he has entrusted Porthos to Hoshi before with instructions
not to feed him cheese, so my vote is for Hoshi.
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 04:18:50
From: "Paolo Pizzi" <paolopizzi@sbcglobal.net
> It was quite refreshing to finally watch a good Star Trek story!
Too bad it WASN'T an original one (see ST VI.)
> I naturally thought that this would be some
> cheap rehash of the Star Trek 6 movie.
EXACTO!! That's pretty much what it was.
> Although the settings may have
> been similar, the story was told in its own unique way
Right, like, for example, by failing to explain how on earth
Archer & Co. walked out of Rura Pente undisturbed by
just knocking out a couple of guards INSIDE the compound.
> The trial scenes did a good job at showing a unique view of events
> from a Klingon's perspective.
You mean the judge with the big metal claw and the sparks
produced by his gavel? I couldn't help laughing every time I
saw that...
> It's been a while, but I think that the gang making Enterprise has
> shown that they still have the "right stuff" to produce a good Star
> Trek episode.
B&B have the "right stuff" (i.e. NO SHAME) to recycle old stories,
rush endings and make absolutely no sense...
Date: 14 Apr 2003 09:19:10
From Boris Badenov <bbad@frostbite.falls.state.mn.us>
>Synopsis: Captain Archer stands accused before a Klingon tribunal of
>conspiring against the Empire.
This is yet another case of an episode self-destructing in the last ten minutes.
There was much to like earlier. Visuals of the trial and the Klingon homeworld
were stunning. It's nice to know that their sun does in fact rise on Q'onos. I
had my doubts in TNG. JG Hertzler was again brilliant as Martok, or whatever
his name was.
The only part of the early moments that bothers me is Archer is showing way too
much familiarity with the Klingons. It was my belief based on TOS that Klingons
were known agressors, but that was about all. Archer's ship logs belie that.
But, that's a minor quibble. Here are some major ones:
Sentencing Archer to life imprisonment on Rura Penthe was a travesty, but then
Klingons have always had perverted views of justice. I thought Worf's comment
at one point about how Klingon families are responsible for the sins of any one
household member were revealing. This episode only reinforced that opinion.
How Archer got off Rura Penthe was a farce. A bribe, Gracie? A *bribe*? This
doesn't speak well of a society that prizes honor. Apparently, honor does not
include personal integrity in this ascendant warrior class. They present as
intransigent bullies and boobs, a rather bankrupt society rotten at the core.
Finally, I did not buy Kolos's I-can-make-a-difference farewell speech.
Reminded me too much of Spock's farewell to Picard in Unification II, and I just
thought, been there, seen this, boring.
From the announcement of Archer's sentence to the end, this episode careened
downhill rapidly. The last two, this and the crossing, have been excellent
setups with no payoff. I hope this does not mark the beginning of a trend.
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:04:53
From: "Das Boot, MA MSW RSW" <fuklotta@hotmail.com>
That episode was an embarassing regurgitation of "The Undiscovered
Country". Surely to gawd these writers could have come up with
something more original. Thev'e had maybe one or two good stories this
year, ie. Carbon Creek, but all in all the series is going nowhere. If
it weren't for Jolene Blalock, no one would be watching.
It occured to me while I was watching Enterprise last week that the
Klingons are about the most boring bunch of characters in the entire
series.
And whats this........... bounty hunters after Archer? Great shades of
Boba Fett and carbonite. Jolene's tits will only carry this series so
far, then its gonna go sideways. Time to fire the writers and hire
someone who's actually creative.