Did Thomas Phelps of Limerick Ireland Go to Pennsylvania?

As of  7/26/2008

 

After a careful study of all materials available to me at this time I believe that Thomas Phelps, Quaker, born 1623 did not come to America. It appears however that his son Thomas likely traveled to Pennsylvania, claimed the land his father had purchased from William Penn, married, and died sometime before 1704. 

 

Given Thomas Phelps sr. age, a voyage to America would  not have been practical. Thomas Jr born in 1656 would have been a more likely candidate for the adventure, being the eldest of the brothers, and the only son over the age of 21.  There is a Thomas Philips/Phelps of Philadelphia who  married in  Rhode Island 1684-5 to the widow Mercy Jefferson and disappears from Philadelphia records at about the same time. No record of Thomas Jr of Limerick has surfaced that gives his whereabouts or his date of death . It is possible that Thomas jr. came to America and died prior to 1704 . John Phelps , "son and heir" of Thomas Phelps sells Thomas'  land in Philadelphia in that year.

 

Evidence is based on the fact that in all of the published Quaker References Thomas Phelps had strong associations with fellow Quakers in Limerick: Craven, Holmes, Tavenor, Pierce. These men are all granted land in Pennsylvania by William Penn in 1682. Penn had established the area to be a safe haven for Quaker worship and many Quakers were seeking refuge from the persecution they faced in Ireland and England.

 

Pennsylvania records indicate that in 1682 a group of Quaker men from Limerick were granted 1000 acres each by William Penn . Among those men were Samuel Tavenor, Richard Pierce, James Craven, Thomas Phelps . These men were a strong group of Quaker men in Limerick who had suffered persecution of various sorts.( For further info see the Limerick papers posted elsewhere on this site.)

 

The 1682 original grant has vanished. According to records in the law suits filed over this land a search was done to find them but to no avail. Other records had to be used to review the case.

 

In the Original Purchasers register for Philadelphia there is a listing for Thomas Phelps and his 1000 acre  grant. Indexed with Thomas Phelps  is Thomas Philips as grantee. 

 

After reviewing the records seen below I suggest Thomas Philips is Thomas Phelps jr - of Limerick.

 

 

   

Time Line

By Brenda Emery

The land docs are all available at the Pennsylvania archives online.  The links to the PDFs of the property records are currently only available to members of the Google discussion group Origins of Thomas Felps(Md), James Phelps(NC), Thomas Phelps(VA)  Contact dphelps61 AT alumni.wfu.edu to become a member.


 

1682 Thomas PHELPS  purchaser of 1000 acres in Pennsylvania from William Penn   

See original purchasers list- pdf   (Note that it has Thomas Phelps then next to it Thomas Philips, also note that it does not say “himself” meaning this is not Thomas the man in the original grant from Penn. ) Evidence will point to it being his son Thomas Jr which also may account for the difference in the spelling of the name. Phelps in Ireland-Philips in America

Thomas Phillips is in Pennsylvania acting as an arbitrator in dispute over passage in One of Penn’s ships    Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine Volume 23 #2
pg. 41

1683  Thomas Philips granted the land, and begins the process of “taking up” the land.  

See dated original purchasers list, 1783 land doc pdf.  

Thomas Phillips acts as attorney for Mercy Jefferson of Rhode Island (widow of Edward) Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine Volume 23 #2  pg. 98

1684- Thomas Phillips continues the process of taking up the lands.  

See original purchasers list (note in this year the name is again PHELPS yet in the land doc is is Phillips)
Thomas Phillips high street lot pdf , Thomas Phillips liberty lands pdf 

1684-85-Thomas Phillips, “ late of Philadelphia” marries Mercy Jefferson in Rhode Island  see  Vital Records of Rhode Island 1636-1850 First Series pg. 27

1685- Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Phillips and Mercy is born Dec 5 1685 in Newport RI she dies 5 weeks later Vital Records of Rhode Island 1636-1850 First Series pgs 70, 116

1688- Thomas Philips lot on high street has been surveyed and returned in 1688  ( note: the deeds were returned meaning the land was officially theirs)

See Surveyor General John Lukens report in Colonial Records of Pennsylvania pg 322

1698- Thomas Phillips is possibly dead. A will for Mercy Phillips widow is filed in Philadelphia County (circumstantial evidence, but I include it because of the fact that it appears to be Mercy the wife of Thomas and that she is called widow in 1698)

Name: Mercy Philips
Residence: Philadelphia, PA
Description: Decedent
Date: 18 Oct 1698
Prove Date: 19 Jan 1733
Title: Widow
BookPage: E:266
Remarks: Mercy Philips. City of Philadelphia. Widow. October 18,
1698/9. Admst. January 19, 1733. E.266. Brothers: Samson, John and
Benjamin Banges. Sisters: Katherine, Jane, Deborah. Exec: Edward
Shippen, James Fox.


1704- lots owned by Richard Pierce, Thomas Pierce, Thomas Philips, Samuel Tavenor and James Craven (which five persons were admitted as original purchasers by J Lukens ) are sold by: Thomas Pierce son and heir of Richard Pierce, Thomas Pierce for himself, John Phelps son and heir of Thomas Phelps, and Samuel Tavenor , to Edward Lane and James Shattick. (note: the names contained in the same court session are Phillips/Phelps then even Phelps OR Philips written as such in the records. Apparently the records indicated to them as they do to me  that the name was used interchangeably and that they were in fact the same individuals. 

See Colonial records of Pennsylvania pgs 322-323


Reports of cases adjudged in the Supreme court of Pennsylvania pg 142 (note the men who were executing the sale of the land were of the city of Limerick in Ireland, John Phelps/Phillips, one of the four who were in Ireland when the sale  took place.) Reports of cases adjudged in the Supreme court of Pennsylvania pg 143
 
1708- James Shattick and Edward Lane request that the remaining 480 acres of the 1000 acres of land purchased from John Phelps of Limerick in Ireland  be handed over!
See John Phelps of Limerick pdf and Original purchasers list John Phelps (note the 1708 date in the table, apparently even though the sale was executed in 1704 the lands could not be surveyed because the remaining acreage had not yet switched hands.)

Interlude……

Along with the country lands (1000 acres) the original purchasers were entitled to so many acres of Liberty or city lands. The city lands are the focus of the law suits. One must be careful to remember that in the 1700’s the city lots in Philadelphia become very valuable. You know Liberty Bell and all of that! The suits come about because
although the conveyance of the original lands could not be disputed, the surveyor general had proved the lots were valid, the question became did the sale include the Liberty or City lots that were granted as an “extra” with the purchase of the country lands.

Edward Lane dies and the lands go to James Shattick through survivorship. .Shattick then sells the land to Richard Hill, ,from there is becomes mass confusion and no one seems to know who owns the city lots.

1781- Memorial is read on behalf of Hill, Moore, and Wells that the lands purchased way back in 1704 (note these are heirs of the original people who purchased that lands from Philips, Tavenor etc. a lot of time has passed since the sale was executed and still no solution to the problem of who owns the land!)

See Colonial Records of Pennsylvania pg 9
Reports of cases adjudged in the Supreme court of Pennsylvania pg 147

Report is heard and it is ordered that J Lukens the surveyor general search the records and try to get to the bottom of it.

Colonial Records of Pennsylvania pg 49


1782- The surveyor general finally reports back that the city lots were indeed surveyed and returned making them legal to the original purchasers,Thomas Philips,John Phelps or Philips

See Colonial Records of Pennsylvania pg 322,323

1804- The case finally ends up in the supreme court 100 years after the sale by John son and heir of Thomas in 1704.

See Reports of cases adjudged in the Supreme court of Pennsylvania pg 142-156

 The key items in these cases are the spelling of the names from Phelps to Philips back to Phelps. The fact that the lands had in fact been surveyed and returned are very important. If they had not the land claim was not valid. Thomas Philips laid claim on those lands , had them surveyed and they were returned according to the Surveyor Generals report. His heir John of Limerick in Ireland sold them in 1704 to Shattick and Lane.  


 

Other PDF files of interest:

 

Thomas Phelps high street laid out.pdf

Thomas Phelps Liberty Land.pdf

 

John Phelps of Limerick D 87 291.pdf

ffelps liberty lands.pdf